tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13777170.post6408389186364995334..comments2024-03-11T02:35:50.848-05:00Comments on grand stream dreams: One Windows 7 Upgrade down, two (maybe three) to go…Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13777170.post-41195457145160363562009-11-16T20:39:45.763-06:002009-11-16T20:39:45.763-06:00@ Anonymous - Great tip referring me to Autoruns.
...@ Anonymous - Great tip referring me to Autoruns.<br /><br />Turns out that there are just a few applications there that are calling to the main 64 bit program folder. All others are to the 32 bit one.<br /><br />iTunesHelper <br />Apple Inc.<br />c:\program files (x86)\itunes\ituneshelper.exe<br /><br />QuickTime Task <br />Apple Inc. <br />c:\program files (x86)\quicktime\qttask.exe<br /><br />iTunes <br />iTunes Mini Player DLL (64-bit)<br />Apple Inc. <br />c:\program files\itunes\itunesminiplayer.dll<br /><br />\Apple\AppleSoftwareUpdate <br />Apple Software Update <br />Apple Inc. <br />c:\program files (x86)\apple software update\softwareupdate.exe<br /><br />Apple Mobile Device <br />Apple Inc. <br />c:\program files (x86)\common files\apple\mobile device support\bin\applemobiledeviceservice.exe<br /><br />Bonjour Service <br />Apple Inc. <br />c:\program files (x86)\bonjour\mdnsresponder.exe<br /><br />iPod Service <br />iPod hardware management services <br />Apple Inc. <br />c:\program files\ipod\bin\ipodservice.exe<br /><br />mdnsNSP <br />Bonjour Namespace Provider <br />Apple Inc. <br />c:\program files\bonjour\mdnsnsp.dll<br /><br />From which this exercise kindly reminded me I need to go and uninstall both the Bonjour and Mobile Devices helper apps as I only use iPods and no other Apple hardware or network services....<br /><br />Another thing I found curious (but not surprising) was that since I installed both the x32 and x64 versions of Sun's Java, there are two verision of the jusched.exe updater running at the same time as observed in Process Explorer and monitored by Autoruns:<br /><br />SunJavaUpdateSched <br />Java(TM) Platform SE binary<br />Sun Microsystems, Inc. <br />c:\program files\java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe<br /><br />SunJavaUpdateSched <br />Java(TM) Platform SE binary <br />Sun Microsystems, Inc. <br />c:\program files (x86)\java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe<br /><br />I appreciate your dialog with me! We don't use x64 (yet) at work and as such home is the only place I have the opportunity to get my feet wet and get a better chance to work out x64-related Windows experiences.<br /><br />It's kinda fun!<br /><br />Now I've got to deal with that nagging 64-bit driver signing thing that comes with Windows x64 life... I think I figured out the ImDisk driver loading issue...got some more experimenting to do, but collected some more utilities and linkage in the learning process.<br /><br />Cheers!<br /><br />--Claus V.Claushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11692921474310162470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13777170.post-13137554647090525832009-11-16T05:04:32.477-06:002009-11-16T05:04:32.477-06:00@ Claus - I'm not sure 64-bit Windows isn'...@ Claus - I'm not sure 64-bit Windows isn't going to be mainstream in the sense that many consumer models of the big PC manufacturers (Dell, HP, Sony) are coming with a 64-bit version of Windows 7. Hopefully (I'm a big fan of 64-bit Windows, especially when using virtualization) its market share is soon big enough for hardware and software makers to reasonably have to support it.<br /><br />Having said that, if the 32-bit version of something works well enough (and with the exception of anything relying on Windows drivers (basically a special kind of Windows service), such as hardware drivers and security software, it usually does), there isn't a great incentive to produce a 64-bit version.<br /><br />That probably explains why a major part of the 64-bit version of iTunes is 32-bit; it may however need 64-bit drivers, thus necessitating a seperate 64-bit version. Sysinternals's Autoruns has a Drivers tab; any 64-bit Apple drivers should show up there. Drivers themselves do not show up in Process Explorer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13777170.post-9730476876578995592009-11-15T20:43:57.101-06:002009-11-15T20:43:57.101-06:00@ Anonymous - "...the lack of a 64-bit Flash ...@ Anonymous - "...the lack of a 64-bit Flash Player is irrelevant in the sense that only IE has a 64-bit version and of the plug-ins only Java has a 64-bit version (as well as a 32-bit version)."<br /><br />You are very correct and make a great observation on my statement. I probably could have expanded that out a bit more for clarity.<br /><br />I'm guessing, at least for now, most home consumers of Win7 still won't be considering the x64 bit flavors quite yet for daily consumption. So this will be even less important and the realization that x64 Windows has both x64 and x32 bit flavors a moot issue.<br /><br />For the folks in the know, such as you succinctly summarized, they will continue on with the current x32 only supported browsers and the x32 Flash version for now, and by the time x64 browsers are more common-place, Adobe will have delivered the x64 Flash version long before then.<br /><br />BTW, I noticed that when I downloaded iTunes, the page offered to serve me up a x64 branded version of it "iTunes64Setup". However when I went to add a shortcut to my RocketDock launcher, I found it not under the "Program Files" folder but the "Program Files (x86)" folder...so I'm not sure if that was just some creative file labeling and OS sensing or if there actually are any native x64 elements to iTunes.<br /><br />According to Process Explorer, all the iTunes processes I see are reporting as 32-bit image types.<br /><br />Thoughts?<br /><br />Thanks for taking the time to clarify my statement for me!<br /><br />--Claus V.Claushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11692921474310162470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13777170.post-48976185278502055232009-11-15T19:36:28.213-06:002009-11-15T19:36:28.213-06:00I'm sure it's a question of wording on you...I'm sure it's a question of wording on your part, but the lack of a 64-bit Flash Player is irrelevant in the sense that only IE has a 64-bit version and of the plug-ins only Java has a 64-bit version (as well as a 32-bit version). The end result is that browsing is almost exclusively done in 32-bit apps with 32-bit plugins, both of which work on 64-bit Windows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com